Bootloader's Mysterious Disappearance

Kean · 02-11-2008

I installed Rockbox and its [boot]loader so that iPod booted into Rockbox by default. Then I changed the firmware for Apple OS using iPodWizard, which somehow caused the bootloader to stop working, and my iPod only boots into Apple OS now, not Rockbox.

Is this normal? Can I boot into Rockbox somehow? Must I reinstall the bootloader?

Thank you.

rdeleonf · 02-11-2008

Try running ipodpatcher and reinstall it

Capt. America · 02-11-2008

The Ipod patcher attaches the bootloader to the apple os firmware.
So if you want to keep your bootloader you will have to run the ipodpatcher again.
But you don't need to reinstall Ipl or rockbox.
This happened to me too.

DarkWarrior · 02-11-2008

If you installed any hacks (like the touch hack)
It might get rid of your loader, if you used a FW.

xiaden · 02-11-2008

Well, as a simple explination, the bootloader is just an estension that you add to a theme. like changing the color of the status bar. so when you change a theme, like all other edits to the firmware, it disapears.

Solution?
Re run Bootloader.

good?

xBrandonx · 02-11-2008

The reason why this happened (No one said; they jost told you how to fix it!) is because, the boot loader is found in the firmware of the iPod. So it's installed on the firmware. That's why when you apply a new firmware the boot loader is gone? Understand? The boot loader stays there if it was extracted/installed from an iPod with a boot loader currently on it.

xiaden · 02-12-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by xBrandonx

The reason why this happened (No one said; they jost told you how to fix it!) is because, the boot loader is found in the firmware of the iPod. So it's installed on the firmware. That's why when you apply a new firmware the boot loader is gone? Understand? The boot loader stays there if it was extracted/installed from an iPod with a boot loader currently on it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by xiaden

Well, as a simple explanation, the boot loader is just an extension that you add to a theme. like changing the color of the status bar. so when you change a theme, like all other edits to the firmware, it disappears.

Solution?
Re run Boot loader.

good?

=P i think i Beat you too it. but anyways. everyone gets how boot loaders work, right? good.

DarkWarrior · 02-12-2008

^ I said it first, but just editing a theme will not make you lose your boot loader. I said it but i guess no one understood. The only way to lose your bootloader is to re-write the FW, cuase the Bootloader is part of your FW. ONLY ONE PART! so my editing the fw you will not lose your bootloader. Only by writing another fw can you delet your bootloader. (Brandon, Xiaden I kno you knew this but we all fail at explaing it I hope i got it this time.)

Kean · 02-13-2008

I got it, thanks people. I was just confused when all I did was apply a new hack and the iPod refused to boot back into Rockbox. How annoying.

Tylertut · 02-13-2008

is there any specific resources to get rid a boot loader on IPW
because i have one now from loading a firmware file but all i need to do is get rid of the boot menu?

02-11-2008	#1
Kean Stay Gold Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 271	Bootloader's Mysterious Disappearance I installed Rockbox and its [boot]loader so that iPod booted into Rockbox by default. Then I changed the firmware for Apple OS using iPodWizard, which somehow caused the bootloader to stop working, and my iPod only boots into Apple OS now, not Rockbox. Is this normal? Can I boot into Rockbox somehow? Must I reinstall the bootloader? Thank you. __________________ tag by magxd --> magxd.livejournal.com

02-11-2008	#2
rdeleonf ♠♣♦♥Magician♥♦♣♠ Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Right Here Posts: 361	Try running ipodpatcher and reinstall it __________________ Just keep on rockin' _______________

02-11-2008	#3
Capt. America Capt. America Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: America Posts: 79	The Ipod patcher attaches the bootloader to the apple os firmware. So if you want to keep your bootloader you will have to run the ipodpatcher again. But you don't need to reinstall Ipl or rockbox. This happened to me too. __________________

02-11-2008	#4
DarkWarrior :ban: Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 993	If you installed any hacks (like the touch hack) It might get rid of your loader, if you used a FW. __________________ Whats up people who remember me? Wanna see where iv been?--> themodshop.net

02-11-2008	#6
xBrandonx FeaR and Respect Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: House Age: 15 Posts: 2,245	The reason why this happened (No one said; they jost told you how to fix it!) is because, the boot loader is found in the firmware of the iPod. So it's installed on the firmware. That's why when you apply a new firmware the boot loader is gone? Understand? The boot loader stays there if it was extracted/installed from an iPod with a boot loader currently on it. __________________ Want anything for FREE? Everything Shop

02-12-2008	#8
DarkWarrior :ban: Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 993	^ I said it first, but just editing a theme will not make you lose your boot loader. I said it but i guess no one understood. The only way to lose your bootloader is to re-write the FW, cuase the Bootloader is part of your FW. ONLY ONE PART! so my editing the fw you will not lose your bootloader. Only by writing another fw can you delet your bootloader. (Brandon, Xiaden I kno you knew this but we all fail at explaing it I hope i got it this time.) __________________ Whats up people who remember me? Wanna see where iv been?--> themodshop.net

02-13-2008	#9
Kean Stay Gold Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 271	I got it, thanks people. I was just confused when all I did was apply a new hack and the iPod refused to boot back into Rockbox. How annoying. __________________ tag by magxd --> magxd.livejournal.com

02-13-2008	#10
Tylertut IPH Moderator Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Greenville, Ohio Age: 14 Posts: 2,408	is there any specific resources to get rid a boot loader on IPW because i have one now from loading a firmware file but all i need to do is get rid of the boot menu? __________________

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